Dear Stephen,
I’ve read the new protocols and noticed several changes. Most of all, the addition of Salvia miltiorrhiza to the protocols and a change in the recommended mushrooms. We have multiple co-infections with our lyme – chlamydia with very high titers, ehrlichia as well, bartonella and viral infections like EBV, herpes. Where do we start? Treating lyme, chlamydia or ehrlichia — or all of them together? I’ve seen that the protocols are mostly alike when it comes to the immunomodulation, but what comes first when treating the underlying bugs?
I’ve read the new protocols and noticed several changes. Most of all, the addition of Salvia miltiorrhiza to the protocols and a change in the recommended mushrooms. We have multiple co-infections with our lyme – chlamydia with very high titers, ehrlichia as well, bartonella and viral infections like EBV, herpes. Where do we start? Treating lyme, chlamydia or ehrlichia — or all of them together? I’ve seen that the protocols are mostly alike when it comes to the immunomodulation, but what comes first when treating the underlying bugs?
Stephen’s response:
There is some cross over in the herbs suggested. Ehrlichia is more difficult in some respects than the other members of the lyme group. In this instance I would begin with both lyme and chlamydia protocols. In cases of overlap there is no need to take a combined dosage, adding the amounts from different protocols. When there are multiple infections such as this, an additional focus we think crucial is to look at the most severe symptoms and address those as well. I wish I could offer a simple answer, but with multiple infections, in general, we get our toe in the water and then, often bi-weekly, modulate the protocol to begin reducing symptoms. Treatment of the lyme group, especially with complex symptom picture or multiple infections remains more of an art than a science.
There is some cross over in the herbs suggested. Ehrlichia is more difficult in some respects than the other members of the lyme group. In this instance I would begin with both lyme and chlamydia protocols. In cases of overlap there is no need to take a combined dosage, adding the amounts from different protocols. When there are multiple infections such as this, an additional focus we think crucial is to look at the most severe symptoms and address those as well. I wish I could offer a simple answer, but with multiple infections, in general, we get our toe in the water and then, often bi-weekly, modulate the protocol to begin reducing symptoms. Treatment of the lyme group, especially with complex symptom picture or multiple infections remains more of an art than a science.
Stephen
I am reading three of Stephen Buhner’s books right now. They are amazing and inspiring. Would introducing a Rife machine or Hulda Clark’s zapper to your protocol, both of which work on frequencies that target specific pathogens, be helpful. You could address multiple infections at the same time. My biggest concern would be with the strength of the Herxhimer reactions.
Dear Stephen,
I would like some clarification to the best natural approah for the hormones to a young male with chronic Lyme that also has stage 3 adrenal fatigue (low cortisol all day/confirmed saliva text) as well as low testosterone, borderline low t3, high reverse t3, and high SHBG. My estrogen is not high (actually on the low side.) my liver enzymes are slightly elevated.
I read so much information about adaptogens being too stimulating for low cortisol ( even eleuthero). I am currently doing the Kalish method ( pregnenolone, DHEA, and licorice root). I also read that licorice root is not good for someone with low testosterone and low aldosterone. I am so confused on which approach is best to take with treating my hormones. Your knowledge and insight is greatly appreciated!
Hi J Miller,
The Buhner Healing Lyme Q and A is now closed to new questions. You can try contacting Stephen directly through his website: http://gaianstudies.org. Best, Julie
Some people claim to have benefited using the Spooky2 rifing device with their other protocols. The company provides free software for the devices but you need to buy the hardware. They have a protocol for Lyme and Morgellens disease that covers a lot of viruses, bacteria, molds, etc. A web search will provide lots of information about it. Just be careful. Lots of companies selling lots of gizmos. Some not so good. Some are very expensive.